Fernando Arancón and Alba Leiva explain in ‘The world order’ by ‘Julia en la onda’ what the United States consists of since the arrival of Donald Trump: tariff threats, pressure to take over a territory like Greenland. “We have to wake up,” Julia Otero said in her column at the beginning of the program, and Europe seems to be doing it. What happens is that “until Europe gets going it costs a lot, but once it does, it’s a good piece of junk moving around,” they explain.
“We are in a phase of stopping understanding the United States as a partner or ally, and seeing it more as a rival and, in some aspects, even as a potential aggressor,” they say. Proof of this are the images that were published early Sunday morning with another murder by ICE, Donald Trump’s immigration police, in Minnesota. A week ago, a woman who was inside her car and wanted to escape was shot dead. This time, the victim was a 37-year-old American man, who worked as a nurse in the ICU of the city hospital.
“Executions in the middle of the street”
“They always say that they are terrorists and that they had God knows what threat they had planned. But they are public executions in the middle of the street by paramilitary groups. There is no need to sugarcoat it,” explains Fernando Arancón.
Faced with Julia’s simile that they look like a Gestapo, Alba Leiva assures that this comparison “is not an exaggeration” because “the internal drift and disintegration in terms of violence within the United States and how that affects Trump’s foreign policy is very worrying.”
“We have to worry about Greenland, but we have to pay attention to what we are seeing in Minnesota because even Republican senators have asked for an investigation (…). The United States has always had a problem with weapons, even with murders of civilians by the Police, but this reaches levels that have not been seen before,” reflects Fernando Arancón.
Trump says he was a “terrorist”: “That doesn’t justify shooting him eight times”
Later, they explain that Donald Trump himself has published an image on his social network of the weapon that the man was carrying, but that in the images that have gone viral on social networks and the media “at no time” do we see the victim taking out the weapon. Yes, “he had a weapons permit, like many people in the United States, but he carried it in his pocket.” “Anyone can see the video, how they throw him to the ground, beat him and then there on the ground, they shoot him eight times,” says Julia.
And Fernando Arancón qualifies Trump: “Even if he were a terrorist, in a democratic country, that does not justify shooting him eight times in the middle of the street.”

