In the ‘Los dispares’ section in ‘Por Fin’ the participants have lived up to the name. Ángel Antonio Herrera has addressed a question to Elisa Beni and Ketty Garat: how can you criticize Donald Trump and, at the same time, agree with his approach to war.
“How is it possible to be against Donald Trump (…) and then assume that war policy instead of not assuming it?” he asked. Ketty Garatha rejected that statement and assures that there are nuances. “No, I’m not saying that you have to assume it,” he responded. In international politics not everything is black or white. “Between black and white there is an enormous gray scale,” and he assures that Spain can oppose both the war and Trump’s political style without needing to dynamite its relations with the United States.
For Garat, the problem is not so much in the substance as in the form. He considers that the Government is unnecessarily tightening the rope with Washington, especially on sensitive issues such as the Rota and Morón bases. In his opinion, Spain should move with “more astuteness” within the European framework, avoiding becoming a kind of “advancer” that breaks coordination with its partners. “There is no need to piss off America even more.”
Along the same lines, Elisa Beni assures that this issue “consists of swimming between several waters.” For the analyst, the pattern repeats itself: a foreign policy marked by personalistic decisions that prioritize confrontation.
Beni has recalled recent frictions – Algeria, Morocco, Argentina, Israel – to maintain that the Government tends to “polarize” and “stand in front” of other countries. “Spanish foreign policy ultimately consists of the holy will of Pedro Sánchez.”
In the specific case of the United States, he interprets the movement as a search for political gain. “Sánchez is adversarial,” and highlights that the external posture benefits him internally.

